Monday, November 12, 2007

Scalzi's Creation Museum report

Yeah, more blogging at odd hours of the day. Largely because I've been having fun with phlegm (every sick person's pride and joy), so I'm not getting the best rest right now.

Anyway, may I present, for your reading pleasure, Mr. John Scalzi's Creation Museum Report, which I paid good money for, along with a bunch of other people. It includes both a photo essay and an accompanying snarky essay. I think I may have to stop laughing due to lack of oxygen in a bit. =)

I mean, really, how can you beat a photo caption which says, for the very first picture in the photo essay,

"An apatosaurus (I think) in the service area behind the museum. What did he do to get exiled to the grimy back of the museum? Might it have something to do with insisting he's been dead for 65 million years, and not a few thousand? Whichever, on a November day it's chilly out there for a cold-blooded reptile, and he looks like he wants to come back into God's grace, or at least God's central heating. "

I apologize in advance to any religious Christians reading this blog, for posting this link, but really, I find it damn hilarious. =)


Jim Zoetewey said...

No need to apologize, you might be surprised to find that a sizable number of actively religious Christians don't have a problem with evolution.

Anonymous said...

I read the post when he posted it but I didn't look at the photo essay. That's hilarious. Poor dinosaur cast out of God's central heating. Which level of hell in Dante was no central heating?

-Emily (

Don said...

As a religious Christian (of the Catholic variety), I think that creationists deserve to be mocked for attempting to reduce our faith to an absurdity.

Ryan Field said...

"I think I may have to stop laughing due to lack of oxygen in a bit."

I truly hope they've ordered chest x-rays to rule out pneumonia.

Chumplet said...

When I was a kid, I used to sneak to the back of the old museum in Saint John NB and wonder what all those old exhibits thought about being abandoned in the storerooms. I think there was even a dusty old Mammoth back there.

Katharine O'Moore-Klopf said...

So funny! :-) Thanks for posting this.

joycemocha said...

Don't apologize.

Not all of us Christians are Biblical literalists who postulate a need for a literal 7 day creation in 24 hour days.

There *are* those of us out there who have no problems with evolution, and don't find it a conflict with our faith (if anything, I have more problems with the Biblical literalists than scientists.

kiwi said...

Blasphemy! May God have mercy on your soul.

kiwi said...

Seriously, loved this, Jenny. Thanks for posting.

Also, it's really nice to see many of the comments here from Christians who openly acknowledge that "we see but dimly, as a reflection in a mirror ..."

It's a refreshing change.

James Dashner said...

I know I will be ostracized, but I had to voice a bit of opposition here.

Let me start by saying I'm Christian, but I FIRMLY believe in evolution. I also adamantly believe in the separation of Church and State.

I also can take a joke and have laughed at myself and my religion many times. I'm a Mormon for crying out loud! We are fodder for jokes, and I've laughed at the best of them. Especially the famous South Park episode.

However, am I the only one who saw this as a bit overly mean spirited? Degrading? Condescending? Callous? I mean, horseshit was funny the FIRST 50 times he said it.

Listen, for every psycho neo nazi Christian, there is a sweet old widow like my mother, who gives a huge chunk of her humble earnings to the poor and the needy. Who prays morning and night that the world can become a better place. Who quietly and humbly believes in good things and a God that we don't quite comprehend.

I totally see the point and the intended humor in Mr. Scalzi's report. But the more I read, the more I felt uneasy. And then it hit me: this guy is belittling my mama! We don't take too kindly to such a thing in the south. :-)

I think we would all cry foul if some guy blogged about the Jewish faith and called it a bunch of horseshit. And I spent hours last week defending Phillip Pullman's books to some of the more right wing Mormons. I've always made it a point to respect all beliefs, which I think is at the essence of our Constitution's granting of freedom of religion.

I'm not trying to preach. I'm just giving an honest and sincere response to how this report made me feel. It made me feel sick all evening last night.

There are a lot of psycho religious people. Let's not stoop to their level and tread on the hearts of the ones who are NOT psycho.

Like my mom. That sweet woman believes in things that Mr. Scalzi called horseshit 1,543,234 times. How are we going to make the world a better place with that kind of attitude?

Sorry to get long winded. I wish you all the very best, and I pledge to be even more accepting of others' beliefs than I have ever been.

Jodi Meadows said...

While I think people should believe what they believe, and think what they think, I think I'm coming down on James's side with this one. It's funny, but also seems needlessly mean-spirited.

But then, I hate to see any religion or group slammed in that way. Kind of makes me lose my faith in the general goodness of people.

Yeah, the museum = some crazy. But the mockery makes me uncomfortable. :)

Rachelle said...

Okay, I am QUITE the religious Christian (and I say that without an ounce of facetiousness) and I find the photo essay and accompanying snarky writing damn hilarious.

Honestly, those people who claim the earth is only a few thousand years old embarrass the crap out of me. I've actually edited several Christian scientific books that give the cosmos credit for its proper age, 13 million years and change (I think.) Anyway, great post.

kiwi said...

James, point taken. I think most people who watched this know exactly what you're saying. The satire slips into burlesque frequently enough to create a degree of discomfort in the worst of us. Personally, though, what struck me wasn’t so much how this material made me feel, but why this material connects with so many people. ISeriously t's an indictment that folks like your mom aren't the public face of Christianity. A lot more 1 Corthin 13, and less, an eye for an eye.

… off to find a torch and pitchfork to join James’ team.

James Dashner said...

Kiwi, very well said and I think we're on the exact same page.

I have to admit I was blown away by, in my humble opinion, the absurdity of that museum's claims. But the vicious and unilateral attack, in such a degrading and condescending way, on the millions of people who believe that stuff just really bothered me.

It's not black and white. There are plenty of idiots who believe in evolution and that the Earth is billions of years old. Likewise, there are plenty of really smart people who believe, in a sweet and humble sincerity, that the Bible is literal.

To show such despite for them, which Mr. Scalzi and his hordes of groupies love to show in all their arrogant splendor, is no different to me than the despicable holier-than-thou bible-thumping religious zealots.

Of course, perhaps I'm guilty of the same thing by saying this stuff in the first place. I bet Mr. Scalzi is actually a really cool dude and was just having a bit of fun.

So I'm sorry and I'll officially shut up! :-)

Deborah K. White said...

I was going to read this blog for a bit before submitting a fantasy query to Jenny Rappaport, but, honestly, I don't feel comfortable working with someone who would allow people to mock my beliefs on her blog.

Frankly, I don't care if Jenny or anyone that reads this blog believes in evolution, but I don't appreciate being at the end of mean-spirited remarks about my intelligence (among other things) just because I think the scientific evidence can be accurately interpreted in a way different than you do. Some of you apparently think I deserve to be mocked for my believes because you don't agree with them, so does that mean I have full right to publicly mock you because I don't agree with what you believe? Yet I've never once called an evolutionist a bad name for believing as they do. So why do you make so free with cruelly mocking me for taking my beliefs seriously (including the helping the poor and turning the other cheek bit)?

Sorry, I'm just...disappointed in most of the people on this blog post. Thank you to those who didn't join in the public mocking.

kiwi said...


What's it say about Christians are not to judge the world, but to love all as Christ has loved you?

I'm disappointed that so many folks who confess to be followers of Jesus Christ, can't see past self and ask the simple question: why does material like this articulate so strongly with the vast majority of people?