Friday, March 20, 2009

The Official BSG Spoiler Thread, Finale

Standard disclaimer, blah blah blah--spoilers ahead.

My thoughts will be in the comments.

This post is to discuss Battlestar Galactica, the series finale, and anything else related that you would like.




Jenny Rae Rappaport said...

I liked how the show ended! I may be in the minority here, but I do think it went out well. It resolved almost absolutely everything. It got a tad hokey at times, especially with the flashbacks--which were too damn long.

But when all is said and done, I liked it. I stand by that.

I adore the fact that we are all Cylons. You realize that the good Centurions are floating around the galaxy right now, don't you? =) Or the universe... or somewhere out there. They are coming...

And I like that everything has happened before, and will happen again.

I thought the death count would be higher, but I'm not terribly disappointed. I loved the Baltar and Six parts, especially when they realize that they can see each other's Head-versions. Priceless.

The battle at the colony was kick-ass. The part where Tyrol strangles Tory was also great. I mean, everything was really, really good, until they got to Earth.

And then Earth, eh, we got too many flashbacks. It got a little too hokey at parts. It was like the writers wanted to hang on to the characters just a little bit too long.

I almost wish they had ended it when the ships flew into the sun, did a series of short clips of how everyone ended up, and then cut to the modern-day part. That would have been good. But the show would have been a half hour shorter, which would have made for inconvenient television scheduling.

I still like how it went out. I damn well do. =)

Anne Harris said...

I am overall very satisfied with how the show ended. I didn't get every little thing answered to my complete satisfaction, mainly because I don't really believe in angels, but the overall feeling the last episode left me with was one of satisfaction.

I love that they went out on Jimi Hendrix's All Along the Watchtower. That gave me goosebumps when I realized it was a melody that Starbuck's father taught her thousands of generations before. That gave me goosebumps when I thought of it, and I felt then that I finally grasped the import of so many things the show had done that I hadn't quite understood before, like the opera house and Starbuck's mysterious reappearance.

All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

Nice of them to throw us a bone and say, oh, this time around, they might break the cycle.

Vivi Anna said...

I have to say I loved it. I didn't know what to expect, and I liked that they fooled me with the unexpected.

I admit I loved the hokey stuff, and I bawled my eyes out. I'm actually still choked up.

BSG to me is what is most brilliant about scifi. The writing the acting, the writing...frak, there will NEVER be a show that can equal what they did on BSG. Never. And from what I've seen from the actors POV they just about all agree that BSG for them was the most rewarding, important thing they've done in their careers.

Now, that I've mushed all over your blog... :-)

I too thought the death count was going to be high. I thought everyone on the Galactica was going to meet their end, and Hoshi was going to lead the rest of the fleet to salvation.

And Kara??? An angel???

And Head Six and Head Baltar...both angels and demons??


Kristin Laughtin said...

I thought it was absolutely amazing. It just ended here so I'm still trying to collect my thoughts...bear with me.

I've always found it fascinating the way this show handled both science and religion, so I had no real qualms with Head!Six and Baltar being angels, although the idea that Kara was something of the same somewhat threw me off, especially since she didn't seem to realize it throughout either. But I liked that the ending of her arc was less predictable than "end up with Lee, have lots of babies" (even though I shipped Lee/Kara).

Actually, I loved the way all the relationships wrapped up. Adama/Roslin was bittersweet as always...Roslin HAD to die (it would have been lame if the whole show they predicted her death, and then she lived), but I'm glad she got to go in such a touching way, finally got to rest with Adama by her side, on Earth. Loved Six and Gaius' resolution and how much it demonstrated the clean slate granted to them all. Loved Helo and Athena looking happy together (totally thought Helo was dead).

Like you, I thought the flashbacks were a little too long. I really didn't care what the characters were doing before the destruction of the colonies, especially at the END of the show. I didn't feel like I really learned anything meaningful enough about any of them that made it worth the amount of time the flashbacks took up. It's clear when the writers start getting a little too sentimental with their creations. The only one I really liked was tying Anders' speech about the absolute perfection of creation with him leading the fleet into the sun.

Liked that Tory got what was coming for her. A bit surprised the death count wasn't even higher.

The battle was awesome to watch. So tense!

The only real criticism I have (besides my minor gripe with the length of the flashbacks) was the flash forward to the future (our present). While I liked the idea of Hera being Mitochondrial Eve, I thought it was overdoing the theme about the dangers of technology. The whole show was littered with implications that our technology could work against us (which I was fine with, because frankly I sometimes agree), but the ending just hammered it home a little too much. Too obvious and literal an allusion, and yes, kind of hokey.

Overall, amazed and pleased. Most of my friends seem to be as well.

Martha Flynn said...

I outright loved it. I didn't Six-Feet-Under-Finale love it, but I came close.

There were so many gasp-y moments it was like watching the first two seasons again.

Seeing the opera scene overset with the battle scene.

Tyrol and Tory.

The nukes.

Kara disappearing.

I even got teary at a few points. Now I just have to wait for fall to see The Plan!

Jarucia said...

Okay, I'll be the hater...

Well, I did really enjoy the battle scene...that was great!

When Tyrol strangled Tory I don't know that it was 'rationale' for the cylons to believe the stop of the download was a trick. Couldn't they see one was killing the other?

And Caval (sp?) blowing his head off? Weird.

I HATED the opera house leads to the ship's command deck sequence. I was ticked to think that they had this eerie opera house thing and finally said "what the heck do we do with this now?"

I didn't need Kara to stay with Lee, but the flashback coupled with her disappearance and her not knowing what she was...argh. She acted in the role of the daughter of a god in the end. More like a greek myth I think, but why torment her for so long? Even Jesus knew who he was.

Adama and Rosalin, I was cool with that.

Ty and Ellen's split 'love' moment scene in the strip club and the open field...why was the strip club important? Though I did like what Ellen said to him.

The whole 'it happens over and again thing' while I'm sure isn't unique to Matrix...I'm just saying did they need to borrow that idea?

In all, I was disappointed with how things ended. It seemed like preachy laziness on the part of the show writers. If it were a book I'd have burned it out of frustration.

I learned no lessons about the threats of technology and I'm sure most people who watched BSG didn't either because they are fans of sci-fi and generally understand many of those implications. It was like preaching to the choir.

Of course this won't stop me from watching The Plan.

{sigh} Sorry for being a raincloud here folks.

Jarucia said...

by the by wasn't the outro song Sympathy for the Devil?

Dawn said...

I enjoyed it very much. A lot of the moments you've already mentioned, of course ... good and bad. I agree about the flashbacks.
I LOVED the battle sequence. Those Cylons weren't messing around were they? hahaha!
I was amazed when Galactica jumped and for a couple of moments there, she didn't look like she was going to hold together ... did anyone else hold their breath?
And tears? I fell apart when Roslin asked Starbuck where she'd taken them and they panned over the moon, revealing Earth. Crap! I'm crying again. I cried for a good while ... at least through the commercial break.
Loved Tyrol strangling Tory. Hehehe! And Cavil shooting himself...had a great giggle off of that. He'd become such a crotchety old troll. "Excuse me! Two civilizations waiting here!"
Well done, BSG team!

Crimogenic said...

Overall, I liked the final episode. I didn't like that Starbuck really didn't realize what she was unto the end. Also, didn't like the flashbacks at all. But the battle scene, Tyrol offing Tory, this angel business and Hera safe and sound with her parents more than made up for the parts that I didn't like.

Melissa said...

I thought it was fabulous! It was as much a finale as one can be, you really felt concluded and wrapped up, although with that "it still could happen again" warning that sci-fi typically has.

My husband and his buddies discuss it well and at length in their new podcast and on their blog

Joseph Lewis said...

I thought it was a strong ending, but it just wasn't perfectly in tone or concept with the rest of the show. It felt like they slipped sideways into spiritual revelation as they realized they didn't have a strong science fiction resolution.

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P. Bradley Robb said...

The further removed I get from the season finale, the more I dislike it. At the very moment it concluded my exact sentiment was "satisfied but not thrilled." The satisfaction was derived from finally coming to the end of what was a multiple-year journey. The Battlestar Galactica miniseries premiered while I was in Iraq, and the series which followed captured the feeling of what it's like to be in war - the first wave of fear, followed by successive waves that eventually lessen to acceptance and fatalism.

The finale didn't fit with that sense of reality. In fact, the finale seemed instead to offer up less of a statement about man and society and war and more of a reason to engage in it. The dramatic shift from personal tales to loosely cobbled pastiche of religion and philosophy wrapped up in a Luddite warning screamed cop out.

As a writer I can certainly see why Ron Moore and company would want to take that path, they'd been living this story for half a decade, while we the viewers were only wrapped up for an hour or so a week, 24 weeks of the year. But, as a writer I also understand that the audience is owed a better story than that. Numerous questions were posed early on only to be dealt a Deus ex Machina at best, or outright ignorance at worst.

I think a line can be traced from the series finale towards the start of Season 3 that establishes where the story really started to go, to put this bluntly, wrong.

~Jamie said...

I frakkin' agree. I think it went okay. Glad Starbuck went out the focal point. I needed that.